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  • Lower Arroyo Seco - #LowerArroyoSeco

    Socal - Los Angeles County - La Canada/Flintridge NickNames: #LowerArroyoSeco

    Take the Arroyo Bl. exit off the 210 Frwy. Turn left onto Windsor Ave. There is parking on the left, a few blocks up the road. The trail starts at the bend in Windsor Ave. Use the middle path at the bend.


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    • Trail UpdateBear Spotted On Upper Trail-I rode a in July and on the way up the Brown Mountain Road someone coming down said he saw a bear. I thought he was full of it but a half mile further up I spotted the tracks. I agree with the last post about night riding. I love it(especially in the summer) but it kind of creeps me out. If anyone is looking for a riding partner for this trail at night email me. I need to get out there more.
      mrkcy a 29 year old Cross-Country Rider riding a Giant Iguana from Temple City

      Posted:09/09/2005

    • Trail UpdateThe Animals Are Out-Rode the lower Arroyo on 9-6-05. I did a night ride with my new Turbocat lights. Sweet. Riding alone at night is a little creepy. I saw a few sets of glowing eyes watching me from the forest- one was a bobcat and the other either a fox or coyote. I didn't get a good look at him. The bobcat ended up coming pretty close and wasn't very scared of me. Night riding offers a whole new experience- new sounds, new smells.

      The trail is in good condition- there are a few sandy parts but mostly it's a good ride. The water level has gone done quite a bit and 4 of the first 5 stream crossings are rideable. Looks like someone has dammed up #2 in hopes of making it rideable- it's almost there.

      This is a great trail for beginners and the farther you go in, the more difficult it gets, making it a nice trail for intermediate riders as well.
      MonkeyDigsMTB a 31 year old Cross-Country Rider

      Posted:09/07/2005

    • Trail UpdateStreams Getting Lower-I rode this trail July 27. Out of the first 5 stream crossings, 3 are rideable (the last 3). The water level is going back down and maybe in a month or two they will all be rideable. There are a few new singletrack offshoots on the side of the trail that merge back with the main trail. A few sections have been completely changed by last winter's rains and are more challenging than they used to be (especially between the fourth and fifth crossing). The trail is a bit more sandy than usual in some spots. Overall it's a great ride. Be prepared to get at least your feet a little wet.

      Watch out for people with their dogs illegally off the leash. I usually politely remind them that the dog should be on a leash for the dog's safety and for ours.

      -Monkey
      MonkeyDigsMTB a 30 year old Cross-Country Rider riding a stumpy from LA, CA

      Posted:07/28/2005

    • Trail UpdateChanged Trail-Rode this trail today with my girlfriend and must admit that this trail really has changed considerably since the last time I rode here. The stream crossings are a little deeper and a little wider. There are a lot of sandy sections and a few new little trails that branch off from the main trail (though eventually coming back). A good ride however if you want something short and sweet. The shade is nice too!
      stinkyfinger` a 29 year old Cross-Country Rider riding a homemade bike from Alhambra

      Posted:07/28/2005

    • Trail UpdateSpring 05 Update-Rode Lower Arroyo Seco / Gabrialino Mid April.

      Creeks were still unridable with water 3' high vs. inches before. The current was mild and I was able to wade the crossing with my bike, however. watch out for loose rocks in the creeks! Would not have crossed if the current was more forceful.

      Great photo ops as the creek is the fullest I've seen in years! But riding is bike and hike as each crossing is no longer ridable. Beware of loose sandy banks as well. With these conditions, I agree this trail should be rated - Expert.

      Any updates appreciated.
      dirttwirp a Die-hard Enthusiast riding a cannondale Jekyll 900 from Los Angeles

      Posted:05/30/2005

    • Trail UpdateHigh Water, Strong Current-Hey everyone. I thought that it would be nice to check out the condition of the trail after the storms. I have only been riding this trail for 2 years but some people I spoke to that have been using the trail for many years say that they can not remember it being like it was. First the stream crossings are 3 feet deep. I am not kidding. The current is very strong and I would not advise anyone with out swift water experience to attempt crossing. If you are comfortable and don't mind to cold the trail is mostly doable. There are some rockslides and run off damage here and there but nothing major except a big trench carved before the first stream crossing. There were crews using heavy equipment to make repairs so watch out. Please update this trail if you ride it if conditions change. PS. I took about 15 minutes to move whatever rocks I could out of the trail at one of the slides. Just trying to do my part. I also rate this trail as expert due to those stream crossings.

      Ride rating: Expert
      Ride distance: 6 miles Elevation change:
      Mrkcy a 27 year old Cross-Country Rider riding a Giant-Iguana from Temple City

      Posted:01/18/2005

    • Trail UpdateBobcat!-Rode this trail Nov. 9. Still damp but not muddy at all. Stream
      crossings are higher than usual and make for a good time.

      I saw a bobcat on the trail. He looked at me and ran away,
      impressively scaling a very high embankment. Looked like an
      oversized house cat with thicker legs and feet. Also saw a few deer on
      the way back down. The animals are out!

      Monkey
      Ride rating: Novice
      Ride distance: 7.5miles Elevation change:
      Monkey a 30 year old Cross-Country Rider riding a stumpy

      Posted:11/10/2004

    • Trail UpdateResponse To WLASean-Please stop using foul language, your killing the indescent. This is a public bored and your likely to offend the snake family. It's 3 years later and look who is wearing the armor now. Talk about Dejatu. Let's all hydroplane and have lunch. I think your the idiot, WLASean.

      CncernedRider riding a Seven

      Posted:10/06/2004

    • Trail UpdateResponse To Body Armor Response-Thanks. I'm glad you looked at the date, and also realized that there was such bad language.
      CrzyRidr3 a 33 year old riding a SantaBansheeCruzScreamBlurr

      Posted:10/06/2004

    • Trail UpdateBody Armor Response-The trail is now close for now due to fire hazard til further
      notice

      the lower trail is not difficult at all, but if you loop the brown
      mt- ken burton, that could be a bit more advance. that's why
      you see all this body armors. it's just protection, same way
      you ware helmet Sean. i do agree that when they are down
      to the lower section they should slow down.

      sean i'm not sure if you have seen all these biker go up the
      lower trail with the armors do you? this is a public site so
      please watch your language and if you don't know what's
      beyond the first stream crossing don't mouth off.

      i ride this trail almost everyday i rarely seen bad behaving
      people. most people are nice and polite. it's just people who
      think they own this trail like Sean (down below with What's
      With The Body Armor!?) who has this problem he thinks he's
      could police this trail.

      last time i came down from ken burton(without the body
      armor) i ran into some hikers by the stream crossing who try
      to move a big fat rattle snake resting on the rock. now this
      guy was trying to show his family and fellow hikers that the
      snake is harmless and he had in his hand a short stick about
      a foot long and try to tap the snake by the tail an attempt to
      make it move. STUPID!!! fortunately, the snake was either full
      or realized that this guy's an idiot so it left him alone.

      talking about sharing the trail hikers should be polite and
      willingly share the trail too. some let their kids park the bike
      in the middle of the trail and when other biker come by we
      have to go off the road to avoid it. on the picknic table they
      left trash and left over food all over. IT DANGEROUS!!!
      bears have been sighted on this trail before. don't keep
      inviting them. i stopped and pick up trash many times that's
      doing my part and sharing trail, Sean.

      Ride rating: Novice
      Ride distance: 3.6 miles Elevation change: 500
      Singletrack=5% Dirt Road=80% Paved Path=15%
      concernrider a 33 year old Cross-Country Rider riding a seven sola ti from passadena

      Posted:10/05/2004

    • Trail UpdateWhooooa, Horseys!!!-I rode this trail with a small group on 1/17 and it was in great condition. The stream crosings a little loose but other than that its tight and fast. We just took Arroyo Seco to Paul Little and turned around. On the way back we were booking out of there and I was leading the pack. Around a blind corner I came doing about 15mph(I know...STUPID) and right in front of me were 2 horse back riders. Horses freaked out a little and I locked up front and rear tires and laid my bike down to stop. Knowing that 4 more riders were coming I yelled to them, "STOP!" My wife came around the corner and ate it(bruised knee and sprained ankle) and everyone else made quick stops. The horse back riders were very understanding and I offered my apologies. I told my wife, "This is why people want to close trails to mountain bikes." Luckily she was able to ride out on her ankle except for the stream crossings which I carried her through. After all this the horse back riders caught up to us on the way back and offered to give our injured rider a ride out! If you ladies are reading this thank you sooooo much for your concern. To everyone else: BE CAREFUL AROUND THOSE CORNERS. This ride is usually so isolated on the weekdays it's easy to forget that we share the trail.
      Ride rating: Novice
      Ride distance: 9 miles Elevation change: about 300'
      Singletrack=10% Paved Path=10% Truck Trail=80%
      A schmuck a 27 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Giant-Iguana from Temple City

      Posted:01/19/2004

    • Trail UpdateKiller Loop-I have never seen any postings about trail conditions reguarding the long loop(Brown connector to Brown MT fire road to Ken Burton Trail to Arroyo Seco)so I have nothing to compare the conditions to. I started out at Windsor Ave and rode to the first split(keep right past the private homes and this will take to you Brown MT connector). After 2.5 miles of moderate climbing I reached the Brown Mt Fire Road. At this point you can take the fire road up (North) or down (South). The route to the south takes you to El Pietro Trail which will take you back down to where you started. This is a good option for a shorter loop(I think). I continued up the fire road (North). At this point there is still some climbing but not as aggressive as the connector. It levels of some for a little bit and gives you a chance to pick up some speed and enjoy the views of downtown LA. After about 2.5 miles you make one last gradual climb and arrive at the Ken Burton trail head. If you are a beginner TURN BACK. I was suprised at how technical the trail was. The Ken Burton is a very narrow single track. It has some very rocky sections, 180 degree switchbacks, and almost the entire section is overgrown. Before this trail I considered myself an intermediate rider but by the time I got to the Oakwilde Picnic area I felt like a beginner. It is really cool watching the plant life change on your steep decent. I got a little cockey toword the bottom and was suprised by one last switch back turn(oops) which I didn't make(ouch). Once you get to the bottom you have to ride through a dry creek bed which is very rocky then one more climb. I don't think the ride was long or steep but after 10 miles and the Ken B trail my legs and arms were so shot that it seemed that way. At this point you are on the Arroyo Seco trail. Once you make that decent from the short elevation gain there is only a few technical sections in the next mile. After you get through the rocky sections in this mile it is all fairly easy the rest of the way. The last few miles of the loop I described are a great section for beginners. I bring my wife here and ride this section in about 4 miles. You get a lot of stream crossings and a little bit of technical riding to practice your skills. A word of warning, someone has made a "dam" on one of the stream crossings that is ususally only 4" deep. I rode through expecting 4" of water and it came up past my hub! It will probably be cleaned out by the Forest Svc. soon.

      Over all this is a good loop for intermediate to advanced riders. The only part that really intimidated me was the Ken B. switchbacks but I guess I'm a better rider for having done them and surviving:). Thanks so much STJunkie for the map.
      Ride rating: Advanced
      Ride distance: 15 miles Elevation change: 2800
      Singletrack=30% Paved Path=10% Truck Trail=60%
      Mrkcy a 27 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Giant-Iguana from Temple City

      Posted:11/24/2003

    • Trail UpdateLower Arroyo Seco - Good Times.-Rode on 11-23-03. The trail is in good condition- a
      tad bit sandy but lots of fun nonetheless. The
      stream crossings are great fun. Watch out for and
      be courteous to hikers when crossing. You don't
      realize on the way into this trail that you're going
      slightly uphill the whole way until it's time for the
      way back. We only went 3.5 miles in due to time
      restrictions. This is a great beginner ride!


      Ride rating: Beginner
      Ride distance: 3.5miles Elevation change: not much
      MonkeyDigsMTB a 29 year old Cross-Country Rider riding a Stumpjumper from Los Angeles

      Posted:11/24/2003

    • Trail UpdatePreviously Censored-Thank you for your response.

      I agree with you that forests are closed for many reasons, such as resource protection, species preservation, public safety, or political considerations. Often, of course, a closure is based on more than one factor. The rationale for a closure is always announced by the Forest Service, and is usually, I think, readily understandable.

      I have never gone mountain biking in designated Wilderness Areas, nor have I supported doing so. I have never argued for cutting cross-country on a mountain bike, or for driving a motor vehicle into areas closed because of fire danger. I have never entered an area where clean-up crews cannot be bothered because they are working to repair damage from a fire. I have never driven a motorcycle or ATV through environmentally sensitive areas. I have never entered a preserve that is off limits to people because of the need for species protection. I deplore all these activities.

      I differ from you in that I do need to know the specifics. Perhaps the most common reason invoked for land closures is the protection of "public safety". Guardrails may be missing. Rockslides may have damaged trails, and trees may have fallen over them. Fires may be threatening. Or perhaps there may be no unusual threat in the forest, but I may simply be too out-of-shape, inexperienced, ignorant (or rash!), to safely venture into the wilderness.

      I don't care.

      I am responsible for my own safety. Land managers are not. The government is not. If I am told by land managers, or by the government, not to enter public lands "for my own safety," or "for the public safety," I won't abide by it. I may get lost in the forest. I may fall off a cliff or mountain. I may even be run over by a stealthy fire truck on a mountain road, though I doubt it. Volunteers in a rescue team may endanger themselves trying to find me, or trying to recover my body.

      The National Forest is part of our public lands, and we live in a country where we enjoy not only freedom of expression, but also freedom of movement. I don't believe that I need to be "allowed" into the forest at all.

      If you still differ with me, Id be happy to discuss the subject more while riding. Bucknercave@yahoo.com


      Posted:11/16/2003

    • Trail UpdateTrail Is Now Open-I rode on 10/09 and the conditions were great. Nice and packed which is a far cry from the dusty sandy conditions last time I rode. I turned back at the 3 mile point(where it starts getting rocky)becasue I was riding w/ my wife who is not a ba!!$ out type of rider but its was a nice short ride.
      Ride rating: Beginner
      Ride distance: 6 miles Elevation change: almost none
      Dirt Road=80% Paved Path=10% Truck Trail=10%
      Mrkcy a 27 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Giant-Iguana from Temple City

      Posted:11/10/2003

    • Trail UpdateLOWER ARROYO-Trail is open was there thursday 11-6-2003 saw & spoke to forest rangers on horses.. both said lower arroyo is open. Then we proceeded to ride the trail with no problems.
      Gee a 26 year old Racer riding a Gt special from Los Angeles

      Posted:11/07/2003

    • Trail UpdateTrail Closed-The trail is closed because of "extreme fire hazard and limited resources because of the current fires." The USFS if serious about this. They are patroling the trails and giving tickets to anyone on the trail. The closure is about 1.25 miles from Windsor Ave. If anyone goes there after this post please update the trail and let us know if the trail has reopened.
      Mrkcy a 27 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Giant-Iguana from Temple City

      Posted:11/02/2003

    • Trail UpdateLower Arroyo Seco-This is a great trail for novice riders. It has some small inclines and a couple of stream crossings. The trail gets a little technical towards the end. After maybe the third or fourth stream crossing it turns into a little single track with a lot of rocks. After that about a half mile more and your at the end.
      Ride rating: Novice
      Ride distance: 9 miles in and out Elevation change: Slight
      Singletrack=5% Dirt Road=60% Paved Path=35%
      KaOTiKsiNs a 24 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Specialized Stumpjumper FSRxc COMP from Los Angeles

      Posted:08/27/2002

    • Trail UpdateLower Arroyo Seco-This is a great ride for beginner and novice riders! Get used to your bike and learn how to manouver it. I just started the MTB experience and this trail was a lot of fun! It is a bit technical if you have not been on a bike for a while since there are quite a bit of rocks to deal with, but it will help you to trust your bike and yourself - don't be afraid, but be careful. It was a cool day and the trail was dry, you'll also cross the creek at several points, so you're bound to get a little wet and muddy - it's part of the experience. The upper trails are less technical, but elevation change is higher, making them more challenging. I'm definitely going back to this one!
      Ride rating: Novice
      Ride distance: 6 miles Elevation change: slight
      Singletrack=10% Dirt Road=85% Paved Path=5%
      from Redondo Beach, CA

      Posted:04/29/2002

    • Trail UpdateJPL-After this rain, the streams now have some water making it funner and dirtier to ride. This is the hooking ride for any beginner. You won't beleive that you are still in LA. Also cool ride to bring chicks to.
      Ride rating: Beginner
      Ride distance: 6miles Elevation change:
      Singletrack=10% Dirt Road=90%
      LOS a 30 year old riding a Special Enduro from Monterey Park

      Posted:01/02/2002

    • Trail UpdateLower Arroyo Seco-I never understood the body armor thing. Why don't you ride motocross already.

      WLASean is right, stop screwing it up for everyone.


      ppik

      Posted:07/05/2001

    • Trail UpdateWhat's With The Body Armor!?-People, this trail is for hikers, horses and bikers.
      NOT EXTREME MOUNTAIN BIKERS!!!!! This is
      getting rediculous!! I rode Arroyo yesterday (July
      4th) thinking the trail would be packed with people.
      Well, I was right about it being packed....the only
      problem was it was packed with idiots on mtb's
      wearing full freaking body armor. That can be
      VERY intimidating for the beginning rider, hiker,
      horsebackrider...These trails are NOT THAT
      HARD. You do not need full body armor. You
      people are scaring NORMAL people away from
      these beautiful canyons. If you wanna ride
      extreme singletracks, go hit Jedi or Mr. BIG. But
      stay the f&*ck away from multi-use trails like
      Arroyo/Brown/El Prieto. Not only are the trails
      turning to shit, but people are complaining and
      getting scared away. The first horsebackriders I
      came upon were VERY please by the fact that my
      girlfriend and I stopped for them so their horses
      would not freak out over some crazy mtber with full
      gear flying by. In fact, they were even overly nice
      about telling us it was a breath of fresh air to see
      bikers stop for horses...A LITTLE FREAKING
      COURTESY PEOPLE!!!!!!! This is one of the best
      day getaways in LA. Don't blow it for us...
      Ride rating: Beginner
      Ride distance: 7miles Elevation change: slight
      Singletrack=10% Dirt Road=70% Paved Path=20%
      WLASean a 29 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Trek FS VXR 3000 from W. Los Angeles

      Posted:07/05/2001

    • Trail UpdateArroyo Seco, Very Hotto...!!-Road here for the 1st time last weekend. It was
      HOT!!!! But, the moment we rode under the
      beautiful canopy of trees, and hit a couple of the
      stream crossings, we werent thinking about how
      hot it was. We road to the last creek crossing and
      kicked it there for lunch. We actually didnt wanna
      leave but we figured the ride back would have
      been more fun...We were right!!! Hydroplaning
      through the water is the best!! A few rocks to
      negotiate as my buddy will tell you after a double
      endo...(I know, what's a double endo?? I don't
      know...All I know is it was the biggest endo I've
      ever seen!!! :-)
      Good ride for the biginner..
      Ride rating: Beginner
      Ride distance: 4 miles Elevation change: 350-500
      Dirt Road=65% Paved Path=35%
      WLASean a 29 year old Die-hard Enthusiast riding a Trek FS VXR 3000 from W. Los Angeles

      Posted:07/02/2001

    • Trail UpdateTHIS TRAILS IS AN AWSOME RIDE FOR FIRST TIME RIDER OR ADVANCED ONE. IT IS VERY CHALLENGING, HAS A BIT OF TECHNICAL RIDING DUE ROCK BUILD UP ON THE DIRT ROADS. THERE IS ALSO AT LEAST FOUR CREEK CROSSINGS WHICH ARE ABOUT A FOOT IN DEPTH (GET READY TO GET WET). THE INCLINE IS NOT VERY STEEP AND IS MANAGABLE THROUGHOUT THE RIDE. VERY BEAUTIFUL SCENARY. THER ARE HIKERS, HORSE RIDERS AND OTHER MOUNTAIN BIKE RIDERS. I WOULD SUGGEST HAVING KNEE AND ELBOW PADS AS WELL AS GLOVES.
      Ride rating: Novice
      Ride distance: 3 1/2 MILES Elevation change:
      Dirt Road=80% Paved Path=20%
      BH a 28 year old Weekend Warrior riding a SPECIALIZED FSR XC from CALIFORNIA, USA

      Posted:04/22/2001

    • Trail UpdateARROYO SECO TO OAKWILDE CAMP-RODE THE ARROYO TO OAKWILDE CAMP ON 2/20 THE STREAMS
      WERE PRETTY HIGH AND ALOT OF SAND IN THE CENTER OF A COUPLE STREAMS THAT JUST SUCKED YOU IN TO A STOP.MET
      WITH A COUPLE RANGERS ON THE TRAIL THEY GAVE MY BUDDY A
      MAP OF THE AREA.THE TRAILS WERE WELL MAINTAINED HARDLEY ANY DEBRIS ON THEM. HEADING TO PAUL LITTLE CAMP
      ON UP TO OAKWILDE WAS BIKE & HIKE IN VARIOUS SPOTS.TOOK A SMALL DETOUR AT PAUL LITTLE TO CHECK OUT THE FALLS THEN WE HEADED UP TO OAKWILDE ALOT OF SINGLE TREKS AND THEY WERE MAINTAINED GREAT.
      Ride rating: Novice
      Singletrack=20% Dirt Road=70% Paved Path=10%
      LLOYD SHUGART a 34 year old Weekend Warrior riding a SCHWINN MESA from ALHAMBRA

      Posted:02/24/2001

    • Trail UpdateJANUARY 29,2001-EVERY MONDAY MY PARTNER AND I RIDE THE ARROYO STREAMS
      ARE PRETTY SHALLOW ENTERING THEM BUT ARE DEEP IN THE
      CENTER THE SECOND STREAM HAS SOME RATHER LARGE BOULDERS IN THE CENTER AND COMING OUT OF THE STREAMS THERE ARE ALOT OF SMALLTO MEDIUM ROCKS.HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR A CLASS OF SCHOOL KIDS SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TRAIL JUST AFTER THE 1ST BRIDGE THE DIRT IS PRETTY WELL PACKED DOWN AFTER THE LAST FEW RAINS WILL BE OUT THERE AGAIN ON MONDAY
      Ride rating: Novice
      Ride distance: 3 miles Elevation change: AVG
      Dirt Road=80% Paved Path=20%
      LLOYD SHUGART a 34 year old Weekend Warrior riding a SCHWINN MESA from ALHAMBRA,CA

      Posted:02/02/2001

    • Trail UpdateJanuary 22, 2000-It's been a while since I've been here due to the trail being washed out for so long. Gave it a try 1-22-2000.
      Up to the fifth stream crossing it is very easy going with some unleashed dogs...all tame and friendly...some horses...remember to slow way down for them! I made the mistake long ago by not slowing down near them and I really got yelled at as a horse reared up and nearly threw the rider :( This type of behavior can cause all kinds of problems for cyclists and equestrians.
      The trail still has many large boulders so riders can practice carrying their bikes over them. I would guess that you have to carry/drag your bike off and on for about 75 yards total to get to the dam. I hate carrying and dragging but found the trip to the dam well worth it. Very few insects. Lots of friendly people. Parking can be crowded depending on the time of day.
      I would rate this ride novice but lots of hardcore riders go here for a good workout. It's mostly flat but has potential for high speed with strong legs!
      Ride rating: Novice
      Ride distance: 5 miles Elevation change: ? not much
      Singletrack=25% Dirt Road=80% Paved Path=20%
      Robb Anderson a 36 year old Weekend Warrior riding a OLD Rockhopper...OLD! from Rosemead

      Posted:01/24/2000

    • Trail UpdateMid Summer Update-Just came back from a quickie out-and-back Sunday shakedown ride. Only went in as far as the 4th water crossing. The road seems to be in good condition. The creek is running low, as expected for early August. The water crossings are very do-able. Passed a few bikers coming down, going a bit too fast. Most were friendly enough to offer a brief greeting. Foot traffic was present too, with unleashed dogs that gave me no problems whatsoever. I did slow WAY down when approaching. No equestrians, but as evidenced by their droppings on the road, they are there. Heard/saw the occasional critter scampering near roadside. Nothing menacing. Still a favorite late afternoon ride of mine!
      Stan a Weekend Warrior riding a unsuspended Cannondale M700 from SGV

      Posted:08/01/1999

    • Trail UpdateBeeCee-Rode on Feb 7 after the rains and the conditions were good. The streams have more water and there are larger rocks lying around thus making the crossings challenging. Be prepared to get WeT!!

      Other than that, its a blast to ride there. Met Tony, a volunteer ranger who has been working on this trail for 3 years and is doing a good job maintaining it.


      Dirt Road=80% Paved Path=20%
      BCee a 30 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Raleigh M80 from Pasadena, CA

      Posted:02/10/1999

    • Trail UpdateLower Arroyo-Went there on Tuesday, June 2, 1998. This ride is an old favorite for a quick, fun jaunt. Not extremely technical, but good to practice tight maneuvers and water crossings. Rains have made it not as much fun. Exposed pebbles have given way to boulders and lots of loose sand. Be prepared to carry your bike through a few of the previously easy sections, including one of the water crossings. More singletrack has been created by riders having to get around fallen debris.
      Singletrack=10% Dirt Road=70% Paved Path=20%
      Dominic a 26 year old Cross-Country Rider riding a Gary Fisher Kaitai from Glendale

      Posted:06/05/1998

    • Trail UpdateYoung Dre-The trail is good condition. The Boy (El Nino) has made some of the stream crossings quite deep so be prepared to carry your bike and get wet did I metion getting wet (next time I will wear swim trunks). The depth of the crossings make for very few people after the first camp ground. Its the essence of mountain biking , I felt like an explorer hiking biking and almost swimming.
      a Weekend Warrior

      Posted:05/28/1998

    • Trail UpdateYoung Dre-The trail is good condition. The Boy (El Nino) has made some of the stream crossings quite deep so be prepared to carry your bike and get wet di I metion getting wet. The depth of the crossings make for very few people after the first camp ground.

      Posted:05/28/1998

    • Trail UpdateTrail Conditions, Feb. 15th-Be careful, I rode to the waterfall after a heavy rain and the creek has washed most of the trail clean. The water crossings have become a real chore, but the good news is there is much less traffic past the first two water crossings. This Spring, nuch of the trail will be harder to ride because of all of the debris that has been washed in and out of the trail. There are some sections where a good quanity of rock has been swept downstream leaving big holes coming out of the creek crossings. Should make some setions very technical on the middle section of the trail from just before the waterfall to Oakwilde.
      Paul Bailey a 29 year old Weekend Warrior riding a Trek 820 from Los Angeles, CA .net

      Posted:02/18/1998

    • Trail UpdateTrail Conditions April 12th-Rode this trail this morning. Most of the stream crossing are VERY technical(washed out with steep and rock entrances and exits) but still ridable( most).. Looks like the spring run off really took its toll.The Arroyo is a anywhere from 6 to 18" Expect to get nice and wet!...The long uphill to Oakwilde is the usual loose rock and sand ..tuuf to get traction, but well worth the climb for the great technical down hill..enjoy
      Singletrack=50% Paved Path=25% Truck Trail=25%
      a Cross-Country Rider riding a trek 800 AL from Playa del Rey , Ca

      Posted:02/18/1998

    • Trail UpdateLower Arroyo Seco-This trail starts out easy, past Oakwilde Picnic Area (6 miles) the going gets a little harder. The trail travels all the way to Red Box Ranger Station.

      Posted:02/18/1998


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